BD139 transistors - how to easy measure \(h_{21}\) (DC/hFE) in Qspice in used models?

Theory: Ic/Ib = h21.
Now I have three BD139 transistor models.
The first one model - works perfect in all amplifire simulation.

Next two models works, but when I use them in amplifire simulation - my amplifire not works perfect - they are not perfect.

The question is:

  • when I have three different models of BD139 transistors (or others) - is easy way to count transistors h21 - to buy real I need?

.model BD139 NPN(IS=2.3985E-13 BF=244.9 NF=1.0 BR=78.11 NR=1.007 ISE=1.0471E-14 NE=1.2 ISC=1.9314E-11 NC=1.45 VAF=98.5 VAR=7.46 IKF=1.1863 IKR=0.1445 RB=2.14 RBM=0.001 IRB=0.031 RE=0.0832 RC=0.01 CJE=2.92702E-10 VJE=0.67412 MJE=0.3300 FC=0.5 CJC=4.8831E-11 VJC=0.5258 MJC=0.3928 XCJC=0.5287 XTB=1.1398 EG=1.2105 XTI=3.0)



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.model BD139B npn
+IS=1e-09 BF=222.664 NF=0.85 VAF=36.4079
+IKF=0.166126 ISE=5.03418e-09 NE=1.45313 BR=1.35467
+NR=1.33751 VAR=142.931 IKR=1.66126 ISC=5.02557e-09
+NC=3.10227 RB=26.9143 IRB=0.1 RBM=0.1
+RE=0.000472454 RC=1.04109 XTB=0.727762 XTI=1.04311
+EG=1.05 CJE=1e-11 VJE=0.75 MJE=0.33
+TF=1e-09 XTF=1 VTF=10 ITF=0.01
+CJC=1e-11 VJC=0.75 MJC=0.33 XCJC=0.9
+FC=0.5 CJS=0 VJS=0.75 MJS=0.5
+TR=1e-07 PTF=0 KF=0 AF=1

  • Model generated on Feb 14, 2004
  • Model format: PSpice

  • BD139C_ - created April 13, 2011 copyright Cordell Audio

.model BD139C_ npn
+IS=150e-15 BF=260 VAF=99
+IKF=1.2 ISE=70e-15 NE=1.2 NF=1.0
+RB=5 RC=0.01 RE=0.08
+CJE=293e-12 MJE=0.33 VJE=0.67
+CJC=49e-12 MJC=0.39 VJC=0.52 FC=0.5
+TF=585e-12 XTF=10000 VTF=35 ITF=20
+TR=10e-9 BR=78 IKR=0.14
+EG=1.21 XTB=1.14 XTI=3 NC=1.45
+ISC=19e-12 NR=1.0 VAR=7.5 IRB=0.03
+RBM=0.001 XCJC=0.53 mfg=CA041311


THX

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BD139-TEST CIRCUIT (Output Characteristic ONLY).qsch (5.1 KB)

My test circuit for BD139 transistor.
BD139 is perfect.
BD139B and BD139C are not so good.

If BD139 is perfect, how to find h21 for this transistor?
Why?
To buy or use in real circuit - and one simple information is h21.

When you have a model, set up datasheet test conditions to verify if it is suitable for your task. Poor models are everywhere; there is nothing to be surprised about, even with models from the manufacturer’s library.
Here are some test circuit examples, including an Hfe measurement.

NPN - Collector Current Ic vs Collector-Emitter Voltage Vce.qsch (3.2 KB)

NPN - DC Current Gain Hfe vs Collector Current Ic.qsch (3.3 KB)

Here is a slight modification to compare it with the ON Semiconductor datasheet conditions.

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BD139.qsch (3.0 KB)

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This test circuit setup is smart, having both hFE and hfe, and directly sweep through emitter current (~= collector current). Thanks for sharing!

Thank you very much!!!